I’m pretty sure I debunked every shred of that argument before, but I’ll just paste the past message of mine in response to the last time you claimed we had any proof that the regions wanted to leave:
“Ah yes, the sham referendums of the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (Captured), the “Luhansk People’s Republic” (Also captured), the Kherson Oblast, and the Zaporizhzhia Oblast (Both partially under Russian administrative control). The referendums were done with extremely bad methodology, with proven reports of Russian coercion on citizens, limited voting power for certain groups inside of these regions, a lack of identification or any reasonable restrictions for eligible voters, intentionally created pro-Russian parades in occupied regions, and so much more.Only 1 other country has considered the referendums to be valid: North Korea. The UN had little to no oversight of the referendums, its validity was publicly denounced by a near unanimous majority, and the referendums literally violated international law. There’s no actual proof Ukrainians want to transfer to Russia in a large enough quantity to even consider accepting. In short, they did NOT want to leave, some might have, but not nearly enough, and even then, Ukraine will refuse to allow that during a wartime like this, because these kinds of things require Russia to actually be at the table for negotiations, which it has failed to do miserably.”
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
So, since you believe those regions don't actually want to leave, you're under the illusion that we must support Napoleon Macron in his warmongering quest to launch Western Civilisation into a new dark age of bloody world war?
@9CJ6CB63mos3MO
I dont BELIEVE they don’t want to leave, I KNOW they don’t want to believe, and personally, I do think it’s not a horrible plan, but first we need to talk about getting Russia to the table for actual talks and dialogue to keep this from spreading outwards.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
I personally think jeopardising the survival of the human race to help one dictatorship win a hopeless war against another dictatorship is, by every conceivable metric, a "HORRIBLE PLAN"
@9CJ6CB63mos3MO
And that’s why we need to get Russia at the table to talk right now, we’ve got a lot of crap to deal with here, and the Russians aren’t stupid enough to attack other nations for sending weapons to Ukraine just as they already have been.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
If you want peace talks with Russia, we're in agreement. But it sure sounded like you wanted Macron to march into Ukraine.